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  J W Survey Article : Upcoming Assembly Encourages J W Youth to Lie About Homosexuality

  by BluesBrother in

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  ..........however, it seems that this practice [theocratic warfare] is seeping more and more into regular witness life.

  in fact, one speech outline for the upcoming 2017 circuit assembly appears to directly encourage witnesses to lie to the general public about watchtower’s teachings on homosexuality............. http://jwsurvey.org/mind-control/upcoming-2017-jw-assembly-encourages-witness-youths-to-lie-about-homosexuality.

  nb this is a month old.. if it has been previously posted and i missed it, sorry .

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  Their current teaching is: “You can be gay, as long as you do not practice it.”

  I don't believe that to be the case. They have said it isn't enough to suppress homosexual behavior, citing "That is what some of you WERE" (1 Cor. 6:11)

  
  
  
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  "Don't you want our kids to have what we had?"

  by schnell in

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  my wife just asked me this.

  my answer, in no uncertain terms, is no.

  we both grew up in the dub religion.

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  Schnell,

  It may comfort you to know there are quite a few nominal JWs such as you and your wife: raised by relatively liberal parents with strong family ties, but who on a personal level have come to terms with the restrictive lifestyle of the organization. They view themselves as fundamentally loyal but rather "balanced" in their worldview.
  
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  Why are JWs so sensitive to criticism?

  by Half banana in

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  i remember a roman catholic priest acknowledging on the bbc that the outrageously anti-clerical tv comedy father ted was a humorous mocking of his church but an acceptable thing.. try mocking the jw religion to a believer and the result is so very different.. just why is it that jehovah's witnesses can never take even the faintest hint of criticism of their religion?.

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  Simple. It's because of their insecurity... on a certain level, they're quite aware of the indefensibility of their beliefs, most of which can't hold up against even the most cursory scrutiny.

  "Just why is it that Jehovah's Witnesses can never take even the faintest hint of criticism of their religion?"
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  JW's and the forgotten Jesus

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  so as i have been waking up more and more over the past 3 years...i keep telling myself i'm fully awake and then i wake up more, but that's a different thread.

  but anyway, i've noticed a lot lately that the wt does not mention jesus or christ very much in their literature and neither to jw's in their conversations.

  they mainly talk about jehovah.

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  The JW religion is essentially neo-Judaism in character.
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  so let me get this straight.. the borg moves into their new corporate country club....

  by nowwhat? in

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  with their luxurious lakeside condos.

  takes all the congregations funds promising new kingdom halls.

  but instead starts selling off kingdom halls ..then makes faithful old brothers and sisters drive 20-30 miles to another one, and .kicks out half the bethelites for only only tech savy college educated ones.can barely afford to send out printed publications anymore.

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  Vomit-inducing, both for the magnitude of the properties themselves, also for the uncritical support/defense of them by the adoring masses and the volunteer labor lavished so senselessly on these vulgar, garish wanna-be Vaticans.

  Psalms. 127:1
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  Your current thoughts regarding the holidays?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
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  due to the holidays fast approaching, i was curious about your thoughts and plans for the holidays.

  i have been celebrating them now for the past couple of years and ill be honest it still feels weird to celebrate, mainly christmas and halloween.

  thanksgiving seems normal because growing up as a jw we always celebrated it anyway (well the day after, but that's another thread) anyway, has it become the norm for you to celebrate now or are you used to not celebrating?.

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  Silly but fun (Halloween); welcome opportunity to reaffirm family ties (Thanksgiving); over-commercialized but still innocuous respite from the usual work routine (Christmas).
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  Tyler McCumber wins PGA tour event in Peru

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  tyler mccumber, no, you probably don't know of him.

  he may be one of jehovah's witnesses.

  his dad, mark, was a member the last i knew.. .

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  I know the McCumber boys quite well, they're all good guys, Mark, Gary, and Jim (and their dad); I'm sure they all know the score and know how to hedge their bets very adroitly.
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  What Were Your Elders Real World Jobs?

  by pale.emperor in

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  we all know that education is severely demonized in this religion.

  and that the elders are appointed based on how many meetings they attend, hours they put in on the ministry and general attitude to other elders (as apposed to, you know, actual theological training and counseling) - so my question is, what were your elders occupations outside the kingdom hall?.

  in my old congregation our elders consisted of:.

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  So, a fair number of professionals and the self-employed; not quite the stereotype of janitors and window washers so often depicted.
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  Manufactured conflict and the media

  by Coded Logic in

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  manufactured outrage.

  false equivalence.

  every issues has "two sides".

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  Or PBS/NPR
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  Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

  by Paul Mooney in

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  i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

  i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

  i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

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  Thanks Paul for sharing this incredibly moving experience. Since you're from a multi-generational JW family, that must mean your dad, in addition to enduring the pain of loss of you and your family, also has to grapple with the guilt of feeling he has betrayed all of the family values inculcated in him.

  Please take solace in the fact that he is at least awakened and mentally free (late perhaps, but never too late); encourage him not to recriminate himself but just move toward the periphery, a bit closer to the door.